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	<title>Comments on: Why Test Driven Development for Embedded?</title>
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	<description>Blogging about Agile Development, especially embedded.  Follow me on twitter: jwgrenning</description>
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		<title>By: jwgrenning</title>
		<link>http://www.renaissancesoftware.net/blog/archives/55/comment-page-1#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>jwgrenning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say about CatsRunner, but If you are using the GNU tool chain, you might want to look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpputest.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CppUTest&lt;/a&gt;. Another good test harness of unity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say about CatsRunner, but If you are using the GNU tool chain, you might want to look at <a href="http://www.cpputest.org" rel="nofollow">CppUTest</a>. Another good test harness of unity.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Dayley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Dayley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice description of TDD benefits.  We have a team starting to talk about TDD, but they are still skeptical.  This will be lots of food for discussion!

@David
The page for CATSRunner shows the latest version at 2005.  The system sounds exciting and dovetails into our desire to move development on to GNU tools.  Is CATSRunner still alive or just on life support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice description of TDD benefits.  We have a team starting to talk about TDD, but they are still skeptical.  This will be lots of food for discussion!</p>
<p>@David<br />
The page for CATSRunner shows the latest version at 2005.  The system sounds exciting and dovetails into our desire to move development on to GNU tools.  Is CATSRunner still alive or just on life support?</p>
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		<title>By: jwgrenning</title>
		<link>http://www.renaissancesoftware.net/blog/archives/55/comment-page-1#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>jwgrenning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your final point (slightly edited :-)) is that more testing might mean more field updates can be prevented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your final point (slightly edited <img src='http://www.renaissancesoftware.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) is that more testing might mean more field updates can be prevented.</p>
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		<title>By: David Kramer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear such sentiment.  A few years ago I and two others started a company (http://www.agilerules.com)  focused on Agile coaching, training, and readiness assessment, but with a target market of the embedded world.  We created an open source tool for unit and acceptance testing embedded code with an unusual twist; We used GDB&#039;s ability to communicate with the board to drive the testing from the host computer, so which tests got run was controlled by the host, only the data for the current test need be on the board&#039;s memory, and results were captured on the host and a red/green HTML page generated from it.  It was called CATSRunner (http://www.agilerules.com/projects/catsrunner).

I will admit we didn&#039;t get many customers in that market, but we got a lot of interest.  Now that Agile and TDD are more accepted, I hope more people see the wisdom of more testing.  With embedded in so many consumer and in-the-field products, &quot;upgrading is a xxxxx&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear such sentiment.  A few years ago I and two others started a company (<a href="http://www.agilerules.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.agilerules.com</a>)  focused on Agile coaching, training, and readiness assessment, but with a target market of the embedded world.  We created an open source tool for unit and acceptance testing embedded code with an unusual twist; We used GDB&#8217;s ability to communicate with the board to drive the testing from the host computer, so which tests got run was controlled by the host, only the data for the current test need be on the board&#8217;s memory, and results were captured on the host and a red/green HTML page generated from it.  It was called CATSRunner (<a href="http://www.agilerules.com/projects/catsrunner" rel="nofollow">http://www.agilerules.com/projects/catsrunner</a>).</p>
<p>I will admit we didn&#8217;t get many customers in that market, but we got a lot of interest.  Now that Agile and TDD are more accepted, I hope more people see the wisdom of more testing.  With embedded in so many consumer and in-the-field products, &#8220;upgrading is a xxxxx&#8221;.</p>
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